关于改装后的LANCER RALLIART问题 

[size=3]09年的三菱 LANCER RALLIART。。刷了2次电脑~改了排气。降低了车身。加了尾翼换了轮圈。。嗯。。差不多就这样~算是爆改了 问题来了~改装后的车稳定性和操控性会有什么变化？此车本身安全性怎么样？开起来是否会很不好控制？ 对车的寿命会不会有损害？油耗需要多少号的才合适？还有就是原厂的保修会不会因此而被迫中止？ 还有就是大概估个价啦~过两年这车还能值多少钱呢？ 高手们求解~[/size]

自己顶一下下~

we have exactly the same car, except i wont touch it till my warrenty ends [s:206]

這不算爆改吧[s:205]

反正普通EVO不改跑不过这车啦。。[s:212]

有沒有照片可以看阿, 想看看"反正普通EVO不改跑不过"的車! 我也有過輛04年的RALLIART, 想看看你是怎麼改的!!!

[quote]引用第4楼jiziaoswa于2010-06-28 14:27发表的 回 3楼(撈頭) 的帖子 : 反正普通EVO不改跑不过这车啦。。[s:212] [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5840264][img]/club/p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] OMG...这是车主跟你说的吗？那他的车应该钟点改的不是这些东西。。。你列出来的都是最普通的改装。。尾翼。。。那个只能算是装饰性。

LOL, dude, from what you've described, you'll still never touch the Evo. Lowering springs don't get you any faster. Different rims, unless being forged and light weight, doesn't trim down any weight. If CAI + headers + exhaust were done in the same package, car will gain about 20-30 ponies at the crank, which doesn't translate to much to the rubber, if you do the conversion.

09 ralliart cobb tuning stage1 93octane 240hp 280tq [img]http://www.tougetuning.com/store/images/products/mitsubishi/lancer-ralliart-20092010/engine/RalliartAPDynol.jpg[/img] 08 evo stock [img]http://image.turbomagazine.com/f/10291993/turp_0807_03_z+2008_mitsubishi_evolution_x+baseline_dyno_chart.jpg[/img] 这东西刷过电脑就不好说了。毕竟ra和evo用的都是4b11t。就是调校不同。你说ra刷个电脑干stock evo也不新鲜。不过lz您这算不上爆改啦。好歹也得贴个大贴纸加个led啥的。

[quote]引用第8楼alex1988于2010-06-28 18:40发表的 : 好歹也得贴个大贴纸加个led啥的。 [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5840899][img]/club/p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] 哈哈！

对我来说爆改的概念是你用1万块买车，起码要再烧个两万出来改。

[s:208]传说中的爆改。。。。。。。

换刹车了吗？换coilover了吗？ 加强底盘了吗？换大涡轮了吗？强化车身了吗？换缸内锻造件了吗？拆了后座了吗？加了rollcage吗？排气是换全段的吗？ ms还没到爆改嘛.  

[quote]引用第7楼fairladyz于2010-06-28 16:08发表的  : LOL, dude, from what you've described, you'll still never touch the Evo. Lowering springs don't get you any faster. Different rims, unless being forged and light weight, doesn't trim down any weight. ....... [/quote] to answer OPs question, in short Yes, it will make ur drivetrain not last as long, how much shorter? depends on how much you ve mod it For fuel I would say go for 94Octance, or whatever higher you can get, we all know better fuel gives you better performance, 94 and 91 are like 0.05/L apart.. if lets say, you fuel up 4 X 50L a month, that is 200L X $0.05 = $10, for those $10, you are running your engine cleaner and giving you better performance, so OP, what do you think? =P and I am sure you dont burn 50L a week do you? hehehe A. Farilady =D boosted cars dun have headers.. its called the turbo manifold on our cars hahaha... B. ECU reflash will obviously give all parts of your drive train a heavier load, thus more power, but less lifespand, but al in all, if you are not going to keep your car for 10 years, than its ok.. as long as its a resonably tune, it will last you quiet a while b4 anything major blows... C. Sry, fairlady i have to disagree with you again on this one, lowerin springs help more than you think it would, when the cars center of gravity is lowered... than..OFC... it will help..  but not as much as coilovers(the way i see it, coilovers can be calibrated to your needs, adjusting rebound and such, but unless you know what you are doing, suspension tuning is a whole subject by itself, so i think going for springs is the right move)..but it will help nonetheless, lastly, i know the stock EVO has a bigger wheel gap in the front than in the back, you should keep the proportions for the best handling, they tilt it back is to compensate for the engine in the front for weight distribution, but i know it looks crappy in that stance, alot of people tilt it back to the front, it will lead to more understeer and less cornerin powerness..but if you are driving on the street, it wont matter as much =P I like what youve done with mods..all really smart ones... and does improve performance quiet a bit... GL OP... cant wait wha tyou will do next =P hehe,btw are you using accessport for ur ECU reflashes? depending on how much budget you have and what you want to do... i think the next smart things will be..to spend money on - Get a new intake, 2 types SRI - for short ram intake, it wil increase your low end, but your top end wont change as much, for city/auto cross this is the way to go IMO, unless you are lookin for more engine mods that will defeat the lack of low end CAI gives you, SRI is cheaper and better in this instance. CAI - for cold air intake, it will increase your high end hp/tq but you will lose a bit of ur low end power, and make sure you get a hydro shield.. i know it will reduce air flow into ur CAI, which will reduce ur hp, but given VANCOUVER is a wet city, make sure you do have a hydro shield.. hydro lock engines might take quiet a price to rebuild..since most common hydro lock problems is bent connecting rods/pison rods even =P) -short shifter (unless you have the DSG, but a short shifter will help immensly) -Strut bars and the rear sway bars, trust me.. the stock ones = no good, they wont run you an arm an an leg, but it will lead to better handling over all -Rims is not so much important, but hows ur Tires? do make sure to upgrade ur tires asap, as it will make the most difference -I am not sure if ralliart cam with stock Brembos like the EVO, but Brakes wont give you that much of a bonus, for money wise, i will just suggest changing the pads only, not even the rotors unless you really track it, you wont use your brakes in the city to a point where they will start to overheat and fade, thus chaning rotors/calipers is almost useless, and just money wasted, for brakes, all you have to do, is run better brake fluids (super blue?) and change the pads, dont go for a BIG BRAKE KIT, unless you need it, which i assume you dont, you add bigger brakes, bigger unsprung mass, thus makin ur car slower = nono -not sure if you can, but somehow ask a garage if they can reflash AYC in to ur ralliart? cuz i think only EVOs came with AYC right? i think OP can leave it at that.. no need for big changes unless youa re going to track ur car, rmbr the more money you put in the car..the more you lose in the end... but it you realli have quiet a budget (which i doubt you do..or you wouldve end up with an EVO instead of ralliart) than comes the big ones, (Increasing Power) -changing factory internals to handel more boost -a new turbo, and turbo elbow to build more boost, -changing Intake pipe diameter to let more air in -better fuel pump to give it more fuel -bigger injectors to squirt more fuel -better spark plugs for more precision -beefier differential to handel the extra power -beefier transmission even? (but never heard EVO having problem blowing their trans) -Bigger FMIC (front mount intercooler) for better boost -Bigger radiator so your new engine dun over heat, -Bigger oil catch can for extra oil needed for better cooling -Bigger oil pan to catch all the excess oil -Bigger Down pipe, catylst delete,  new manifold, new exhaust all for the name of better sound HAHAHA joking, for the sake of better FLOW, thus more power (Increasing performance, whats left to do haha) -change to coilovers and throw out ur springs =D and let someone who knows their shit to tune it to your car -only when you are running into the 400+ hps..than i suggest changing the whole brake pkg, cuz you actually do need it =P -Remove back seats/interior for less weight, increase power to weight ratio, change ur factory battery, to those small batties for better weight -Add in roll cage for better safety, upgrade from recarlos -.- lol.. to.. umm better Recarlos, nono, what i mean is to change it to one piece and add in the extra 5point harness -start CFin everything up.. lol yes i know this is gettin a bit out of hand haha I am no expert on ralliart =P but good luck with OP and your project.. look frwd to future improvements and come on guys, dun bash the OP for saying 爆改, for OP.. look at the people who go to SR (no offense to SR, i think they do well in what they do, and they are making a sound business model that is landing them some serious income) but compare to people who bring their cars to SR tuning, OP has already done more... ofc there are people who done more with their cars, but there are also alot more who done less, =P OP, you are on the right track hehe, keep it up, and eventually it will become 爆改, ralliart is a great car, that is hard to improve on, so it will take some serious cash to mod it up, i think OP feels he already spent a good 3000+ into moddin, and he feels that is already abt 10% of his cars total value and thus he feels like he has done alot. Which i agree.. i wouldnt call 3000 小改， if you drop 3000 on a 1999 Civic, it will become 爆改，its just relative to its own =P hehe keep it up OP nodnod

说的我都杯具了[s:198]，我刚订了个黑色的evo。 刷电脑高手能多介绍一下吗？我这几天看来看去也没看明白，什么cobb ap，什么vinshu，还有什么stock flash，我都看糊涂了。高手介绍一下好吗？另外不是super hardcore的话是不是warranty过了在该比较好？ 不void warrant的前提下，我换个排气没事吧？ 以前从没改装过车，好多知识要学习。 另外车来了第一件要做的事就是想把rim先漆黑了。现在车的rim全是清一色银色的，审美疲劳了，虽然黑的是第二多的...

[quote]引用第14楼nessus于2010-06-29 20:21发表的  : 说的我都杯具了[s:198]，我刚订了个黑色的evo。 刷电脑高手能多介绍一下吗？我这几天看来看去也没看明白，什么cobb ap，什么vinshu，还有什么stock flash，我都看糊涂了。高手介绍一下好吗？另外不是super hardcore的话是不是warranty过了在该比较好？ 不void warrant的前提下，我换个排气没事吧？ ....... [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5843510][img]p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] get golden color~~~

[quote]引用第15楼kamikazez于2010-06-30 08:21发表的  : get golden color~~~ [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5844399][img]p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] 金色也确实不错，很配。但是我还是想要把车搞的”凶“一些，全黑比较凶... 另外还在考虑三菱的logo漆成什么颜色好点，顺便把屁股后面那几个字也漆了。银的太难看了。 另外高手有空给我讲解一下刷电脑的一些知识吧！！最主要还是刷了后时候就破坏保修了？

漆成粉的 车里弄个hello kitty [s:201]

[quote]引用第16楼nessus于2010-06-30 09:06发表的  : 金色也确实不错，很配。但是我还是想要把车搞的”凶“一些，全黑比较凶... 另外还在考虑三菱的logo漆成什么颜色好点，顺便把屁股后面那几个字也漆了。银的太难看了。 ....... [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5844441][img]p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] yellow / green / red for logo

[quote]引用第17楼ZJIN1985于2010-06-30 09:16发表的  : 漆成粉的 车里弄个hello kitty [s:201] [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5844459][img]p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] [s:188][s:239]

[quote]引用第12楼peace5566于2010-06-29 01:23发表的 : 换刹车了吗？换coilover了吗？ 加强底盘了吗？换大涡轮了吗？强化车身了吗？换缸内锻造件了吗？拆了后座了吗？加了rollcage吗？排气是换全段的吗？ ms还没到爆改嘛.   [url=/club/job.php?action=topost&tid=251458&pid=5841927][img]/club/p_w_picpath/back.gif[/img][/url] [/quote] 這你這樣來說, 我的車算是70%爆改!!! 我還再等照片呢! 樓主...照片呢?